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	<title>Comments on: Netbeans is cool for Rails Development, but ugly compared to Textmate.</title>
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		<title>By: Jerrett</title>
		<link>http://www.danielfischer.com/2007/08/29/netbeans-is-cool-for-rails-development-but-ugly-compared-to-textmate/#comment-10765</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 17:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, netbeans does look pretty bad with all that aquaey stuff in OSX. Looks very clean and nice in linux though (after killing the toolbar)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, netbeans does look pretty bad with all that aquaey stuff in OSX. Looks very clean and nice in linux though (after killing the toolbar)</p>
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		<title>By: bonaldi</title>
		<link>http://www.danielfischer.com/2007/08/29/netbeans-is-cool-for-rails-development-but-ugly-compared-to-textmate/#comment-10419</link>
		<dc:creator>bonaldi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 02:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took a look at Netbeans after that article as well! I'm completely sold, and I've been sneering at apps that aren't "Mac-like" since Word 6. I did have to immediately turn off the toolbar, and turn the windows into palettes ... but it's really a nice environment. 

Either using web apps has shot my standards to hell, or the extra features of Netbeans won me over. I think it's the latter. That, and I was getting so tangled up in Textmate's ever-opening tabs that I'd gone back to BBEdit (its distinction between project browser and actively-editing files is handy). 

There's just no way I can call Textmate an IDE now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took a look at Netbeans after that article as well! I&#8217;m completely sold, and I&#8217;ve been sneering at apps that aren&#8217;t &#8220;Mac-like&#8221; since Word 6. I did have to immediately turn off the toolbar, and turn the windows into palettes &#8230; but it&#8217;s really a nice environment. </p>
<p>Either using web apps has shot my standards to hell, or the extra features of Netbeans won me over. I think it&#8217;s the latter. That, and I was getting so tangled up in Textmate&#8217;s ever-opening tabs that I&#8217;d gone back to BBEdit (its distinction between project browser and actively-editing files is handy). </p>
<p>There&#8217;s just no way I can call Textmate an IDE now.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Fisch...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Fisch...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 23:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Infrid,

Thanks for the response. I see what you're saying, and that screenshot looks fairly nice. Still, those "big bubbles" are such a nasty appearance to me, I don't know why - it's really getting to my skin.

Also, the dialogues in Netbeans &lt;em&gt;are slower&lt;/em&gt; than they are in Textmate. Textmate feels more snappy, no?

I would have to admit that Netbeans has some sweet things that Textmate doesn't, especially with the subversion interface.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Infrid,</p>
<p>Thanks for the response. I see what you&#8217;re saying, and that screenshot looks fairly nice. Still, those &#8220;big bubbles&#8221; are such a nasty appearance to me, I don&#8217;t know why - it&#8217;s really getting to my skin.</p>
<p>Also, the dialogues in Netbeans <em>are slower</em> than they are in Textmate. Textmate feels more snappy, no?</p>
<p>I would have to admit that Netbeans has some sweet things that Textmate doesn&#8217;t, especially with the subversion interface.</p>
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		<title>By: infrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>infrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 23:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, thanks for stopping by my site.

I dig what you're saying and when I first saw netbeans (I was a textmate user) I thought quite the same. However, I loved the features so much, that I grew less bothered by the apparent clunkyness of the ui.

That said though, I actually find netbeans has more finesse and style than textmate, except it's hidden deeper than the instant appearance of the gui. I actually find myself finding textmate really clunky and ugly these days - you can ask my missus, she always hears me cussing it's find dialogue and getting p'd off with it's indentation engine.

I do agree that texmate has got that gorgeous cocoa look.

However, you can seriously tone down the clutter of netbeans gui. Just look at this pic

http://www.lifeonrails.org/images/articles/netbeansbare.png

Here you can see it almost as stripped as textmate. 

To be honest, I've been so in love with netbeans functionality that I never thought to do this before, but I love it even more now, so thanks for your blog article :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, thanks for stopping by my site.</p>
<p>I dig what you&#8217;re saying and when I first saw netbeans (I was a textmate user) I thought quite the same. However, I loved the features so much, that I grew less bothered by the apparent clunkyness of the ui.</p>
<p>That said though, I actually find netbeans has more finesse and style than textmate, except it&#8217;s hidden deeper than the instant appearance of the gui. I actually find myself finding textmate really clunky and ugly these days - you can ask my missus, she always hears me cussing it&#8217;s find dialogue and getting p&#8217;d off with it&#8217;s indentation engine.</p>
<p>I do agree that texmate has got that gorgeous cocoa look.</p>
<p>However, you can seriously tone down the clutter of netbeans gui. Just look at this pic</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lifeonrails.org/images/articles/netbeansbare.png" rel="nofollow">http://www.lifeonrails.org/images/articles/netbeansbare.png</a></p>
<p>Here you can see it almost as stripped as textmate. </p>
<p>To be honest, I&#8217;ve been so in love with netbeans functionality that I never thought to do this before, but I love it even more now, so thanks for your blog article :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Fisch...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Fisch...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tor,

I'd really like to be able to use anything from the RSpec bundle in Textmate. I think the entire bundle is really helpful.

If you want some more feedback I'll share with you. I would really be more inclined to use Netbeans if the interface was a tad smaller, the entire ui is just so bulky. I know that's probably asking a lot, but I can pretty much guarantee you a slicker interface would be completely bad-ass.

Another thing that I use heavily is HAML/SASS. It's an alternative to RHTML that is gaining popularity at a rapid rate, if you could integrate that bundle as well, that would be amazing. 

I truly like Netbeans, I just can't see myself using it unless it had those bundles, and a smaller interface.

Thanks for the comment,
Daniel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tor,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d really like to be able to use anything from the RSpec bundle in Textmate. I think the entire bundle is really helpful.</p>
<p>If you want some more feedback I&#8217;ll share with you. I would really be more inclined to use Netbeans if the interface was a tad smaller, the entire ui is just so bulky. I know that&#8217;s probably asking a lot, but I can pretty much guarantee you a slicker interface would be completely bad-ass.</p>
<p>Another thing that I use heavily is HAML/SASS. It&#8217;s an alternative to RHTML that is gaining popularity at a rapid rate, if you could integrate that bundle as well, that would be amazing. </p>
<p>I truly like Netbeans, I just can&#8217;t see myself using it unless it had those bundles, and a smaller interface.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment,<br />
Daniel</p>
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